David Haye v Nikolai Valuev

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David Haye v Nikolai Valuev; Novenber 7th
Topic Started: Sep 22 2009, 03:40 PM (11,724 Views)
irishredlady	Sep 22 2009, 03:40 PM Post #1
JFT96 Posts: 12,700 Group: Members Member #3,443 Joined: January 16, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Stevie, Dirk, Nando	OMG, Have you seen the size of the guy Former undisputed cruiserweight king Haye will take on the 7ft 2ins Russian giant in Germany on November 7 in only his second fight in the heavyweight division To give you an idea of how big this forker is I cannot wait for this



RN#1	Sep 22 2009, 03:44 PM Post #2
What an IDIOT Posts: 20,223 Group: Members Member #1,297 Joined: April 30, 2008 Team: liverpool Players: Agger Nando Aquaman	The beast from the east is a monster but cant fight so Haye has a chance imo. If he can get under the big man and under his reach he has the power and accuracy to drop him



irishredlady	Sep 22 2009, 03:53 PM Post #3
JFT96 Posts: 12,700 Group: Members Member #3,443 Joined: January 16, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Stevie, Dirk, Nando	Would you chance it Ron



paddypower	Sep 22 2009, 03:55 PM Post #4
Forum Redemptionist Posts: 11,814 Group: Members Member #896 Joined: February 23, 2008 Team: Liverpool Players: Reina	How scary would it be stepping upto that Although saying that it's easier to generate power in a punch swinging upwards than it it swing downwards.



Mr Flibble	Sep 22 2009, 04:17 PM Post #5
Hamster Molester Posts: 7,556 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: September 14, 2007 Team: Chelsea Players: JT, Lamps, Cech	CrouchisGod Sep 22 2009, 03:44 PM The beast from the east is a monster but cant fight so Haye has a chance imo. If he can get under the big man and under his reach he has the power and accuracy to drop him Has he got the power. I dont think so. Valuev has been hit hard a lot of times and it never seems to have an effect. He just keeps his hands up carries on stumbling around and poking out that jab. Haye is by far the more skilful fighter, but still not convinced he is a true heavyweight. Can see Haye moving in and out and picking up the rounds in 1st half of fight, then it will just depend on whether he tires and gets caught by Valuev or has the fitness to carry on moving for the whole fight. If Haye gets caught by one of Valuev heavy swings, that it..........lights out.



irishredlady	Sep 22 2009, 06:43 PM Post #6
JFT96 Posts: 12,700 Group: Members Member #3,443 Joined: January 16, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Stevie, Dirk, Nando	bring it on



Papa_Lazarou	Sep 22 2009, 06:48 PM Post #7
Absolutely Spiffing Fellow! Posts: 8,806 Group: Members Member #3,465 Joined: February 4, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Lauri Dalla Valle	Haye has some serious power and I can easily seeing him flooring Valuev. Whether or not he will be able to get inside the range is another matter as Haye himself is pretty vulnerable to a good punch. I would still go for Haye by KO though.



irishredlady	Sep 22 2009, 06:52 PM Post #8
JFT96 Posts: 12,700 Group: Members Member #3,443 Joined: January 16, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Stevie, Dirk, Nando	KO I hope the ring is made of reinforced steel if it is I dont know why , but I really have an interest in this and cant wait. The last time I was like this was when Tyson used to fight



Papa_Lazarou	Sep 22 2009, 06:55 PM Post #9
Absolutely Spiffing Fellow! Posts: 8,806 Group: Members Member #3,465 Joined: February 4, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Lauri Dalla Valle	Haye is always fun to watch. Been waiting for his next fight for ages because of his injuries.



Mr Flibble	Sep 22 2009, 07:54 PM Post #10
Hamster Molester Posts: 7,556 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: September 14, 2007 Team: Chelsea Players: JT, Lamps, Cech	Papa_Lazarou Sep 22 2009, 06:48 PM Haye has some serious power and I can easily seeing him flooring Valuev. Whether or not he will be able to get inside the range is another matter as Haye himself is pretty vulnerable to a good punch. I would still go for Haye by KO though. Dont think Valuev has ever been on the floor. Haye had power at 200lb limit, but how will his power seem at HW? Still not convinced. Valuev has been hit by some true HWs and just seems to shrugs it off and carry on as if nothing happened. Dont get me wrong, dont rate Valuev as a boxer, but his size.........will prob be a full 3rd heavier than Haye, and that would be the same as Amir Khan fighting David Haye.



Papa_Lazarou	Sep 22 2009, 08:22 PM Post #11
Absolutely Spiffing Fellow! Posts: 8,806 Group: Members Member #3,465 Joined: February 4, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Lauri Dalla Valle	RetardedDwarf Sep 22 2009, 07:54 PM Papa_Lazarou Sep 22 2009, 06:48 PM Haye has some serious power and I can easily seeing him flooring Valuev. Whether or not he will be able to get inside the range is another matter as Haye himself is pretty vulnerable to a good punch. I would still go for Haye by KO though. Dont think Valuev has ever been on the floor. Haye had power at 200lb limit, but how will his power seem at HW? Still not convinced. Valuev has been hit by some true HWs and just seems to shrugs it off and carry on as if nothing happened. Dont get me wrong, dont rate Valuev as a boxer, but his size.........will prob be a full 3rd heavier than Haye, and that would be the same as Amir Khan fighting David Haye. Can't remember the guys name but Haye's debut at HW was against a bloke that never gets stopped and he KO'd him in the first or second round Just hope that Valuev doesn't just lean on Haye the whole fight and tire him out. That is my main fear I think.



Mr Flibble	Sep 23 2009, 12:51 AM Post #12
Hamster Molester Posts: 7,556 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: September 14, 2007 Team: Chelsea Players: JT, Lamps, Cech	Papa_Lazarou Sep 22 2009, 08:22 PM RetardedDwarf Sep 22 2009, 07:54 PM Papa_Lazarou Sep 22 2009, 06:48 PM Haye has some serious power and I can easily seeing him flooring Valuev. Whether or not he will be able to get inside the range is another matter as Haye himself is pretty vulnerable to a good punch. I would still go for Haye by KO though. Dont think Valuev has ever been on the floor. Haye had power at 200lb limit, but how will his power seem at HW? Still not convinced. Valuev has been hit by some true HWs and just seems to shrugs it off and carry on as if nothing happened. Dont get me wrong, dont rate Valuev as a boxer, but his size.........will prob be a full 3rd heavier than Haye, and that would be the same as Amir Khan fighting David Haye. Can't remember the guys name but Haye's debut at HW was against a bloke that never gets stopped and he KO'd him in the first or second round Just hope that Valuev doesn't just lean on Haye the whole fight and tire him out. That is my main fear I think. Monte Barrett. And he had been beaten 6 times before he fought Haye and 3 of them were stoppages. Valuev beat him with a stoppage back in 05.



norwichnutta	Sep 23 2009, 11:56 AM Post #13
lambert is god Posts: 16,166 Group: Members Member #45 Joined: September 24, 2007 Team: norwich city Players: holt,hoolahan,martin	2 things to remember for this fight - valuev has a massive fan base in germany where the fight is taking place holyfield was robbed of a points decision imo and 2nd haye's chin is not great and has never really been tested against a half decent heavyweight



Papa_Lazarou	Sep 23 2009, 01:44 PM Post #14
Absolutely Spiffing Fellow! Posts: 8,806 Group: Members Member #3,465 Joined: February 4, 2009 Team: Liverpool FC Players: Lauri Dalla Valle	RetardedDwarf Sep 23 2009, 12:51 AM Papa_Lazarou Sep 22 2009, 08:22 PM RetardedDwarf Sep 22 2009, 07:54 PM Papa_Lazarou Sep 22 2009, 06:48 PM Haye has some serious power and I can easily seeing him flooring Valuev. Whether or not he will be able to get inside the range is another matter as Haye himself is pretty vulnerable to a good punch. I would still go for Haye by KO though. Dont think Valuev has ever been on the floor. Haye had power at 200lb limit, but how will his power seem at HW? Still not convinced. Valuev has been hit by some true HWs and just seems to shrugs it off and carry on as if nothing happened. Dont get me wrong, dont rate Valuev as a boxer, but his size.........will prob be a full 3rd heavier than Haye, and that would be the same as Amir Khan fighting David Haye. Can't remember the guys name but Haye's debut at HW was against a bloke that never gets stopped and he KO'd him in the first or second round Just hope that Valuev doesn't just lean on Haye the whole fight and tire him out. That is my main fear I think. Monte Barrett. And he had been beaten 6 times before he fought Haye and 3 of them were stoppages. Valuev beat him with a stoppage back in 05. No, that was his second fight at HW - he had one fight already before officially stepping up full-time. He wasn't particularly well known but he was a fighter picked for being tough but unlikely to beat Haye. I think he'd faught a British fighter a few months earlier and lost on points but can't remember it that clearly - it was a couple of years ago I think.



RN#1	Sep 23 2009, 02:46 PM Post #15
What an IDIOT Posts: 20,223 Group: Members Member #1,297 Joined: April 30, 2008 Team: liverpool Players: Agger Nando Aquaman	This gorilla has taken some good hits but imo haye hits harder than anyone he has faced. The Hayemaker can ko him imo



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