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| Should suspects in sex crimes be publicly named before they are even charged? | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 20 2009, 09:37 PM (383 Views) | |
| Mr Flibble | Oct 20 2009, 09:37 PM Post #1 |
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You hear it all the time. Mr so and so has been arrested for a sex crime, name and picture is all over the newspapers and tv and it then turns out a few days/weeks/months later that he has been dropped from inquires. Trouble is, u dont normally hear about that. Lots of peeps work on basis of no smoke without fire etc and suddenly the guy finds his name ruined in local community. Should a suspects name be withheld in certain cases to stop this happening? |
 
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| goslow | Oct 20 2009, 09:45 PM Post #2 |
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the suspects name should be with held in every sex case.i know boys who were incorrectly accused of the crime but are still refered too as"so and so the rapist".if they are proven to be guilty then by all means plaster them all over the news until then they should remain anonymous. |
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| dutchmcfc | Oct 20 2009, 09:55 PM Post #3 |
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Over here in The Netherlands anyone who is arrested cannot be named with their full name or picture in the press. so Micheal Smith would be Micheal S. in the media. I think that is a pretty good system. it protect those accused persons somewhat in case they turn out to be innocent. |
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| Mr Flibble | Oct 20 2009, 09:59 PM Post #4 |
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The police argue that by having the name in the public domain, it can bring other poss victims forward, which to be fair to them, its has done in the past. |
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| dutchmcfc | Oct 20 2009, 10:11 PM Post #5 |
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That's a fair point. But by getting those names in the public domain, other less savoury vigilante type people get them too. And what if the accused turns out to be innocent after all? there name would forever be linked to there supposed crime... not to mention being now known to loonies (who are out there ) who don't necessarily think that the judicial protocols should be followed. |
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| Mr Flibble | Oct 20 2009, 10:13 PM Post #6 |
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Not saying i disagree with u Dutch, just mentioning the reason the Police like to get the name in the public domain. |
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| stacie | Oct 20 2009, 10:36 PM Post #7 |
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It shouldn't be mentioned. I can understand the point about getting other victims to come forward but it's not worth risking the safety of an innocent person, imo. In addition, if the offender has a common name rumours can start even before pictures are released. Then you get the chance that people might make false statements to try and get someone in further trouble. A guy in my block at uni had his name released over rape enquiries and straight away his ex was trying to get women to call the police and claim he'd raped them. It all turned out to be a case of mistaken identity anyway. |
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| mumanc | Oct 21 2009, 11:27 AM Post #8 |
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but if the person is inocent how can that work  also aren't we inocent untill proven guilty in this country dirt sticks its a fact. TBH no one should be named for any crime untill it is proven that they did it,again its news :rolleyes: papers media etc making money out of rumours 
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| Mr Flibble | Oct 21 2009, 03:45 PM Post #9 |
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It works when the person isnt innocent lol. Cant really blame the papers, they just report the facts. Its the ruling that the supsects name is allowed to be released thats the prob. |
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| dutchmcfc | Oct 21 2009, 03:47 PM Post #10 |
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That it does... and that's a good point, but I personally wouldn't want to have the innocent suffer under the guilty... and yeah the law is the prob. If we didn't have legislature for this in the netherlands I am sure the media would publish names as well.... they just legally cannot |
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| mumanc | Oct 22 2009, 09:42 AM Post #11 |
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you are joking with this statement aren't you
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| dutchmcfc | Oct 22 2009, 10:39 AM Post #12 |
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why would he be?
Edited by dutchmcfc, Oct 22 2009, 10:39 AM.
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| mumanc | Oct 22 2009, 10:56 AM Post #13 |
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since when have news papers reported anything exept rumours
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| dutchmcfc | Oct 22 2009, 11:00 AM Post #14 |
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Since a long time actually. The fact that there are also many papers who do post nothing but rumours, but there are plenty of journalistic papers too. And journalistic ethics are a tricky thing. It doesn't necessarily think that protecting people over informing people is good. And they do have a point there. There job is to provide news in any legal way. So you can't blame them for publishing names when there is no legislation in place to protect accused people. |
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| mumanc | Oct 22 2009, 11:07 AM Post #15 |
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sorry dutch dont buy it,"papers are scumbags ,who print what they want,because they know no one can afford to take them to court,and even if they did and won,the "papers" would make more money than they lost selling the story  whats happened to the roleyes emoticon.
Edited by mumanc, Oct 22 2009, 11:08 AM.
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